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Old 09-17-2007   #11
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I'm definitely not as sensitive to food combining as it sounds you are Greenbunny. I am to some extent, like I don't eat fruit and veggies together, I'll feel ill if I eat fruit or melon after veggies. The only fruit that I'll juice with veggies is apples, I've been told that they make a good mix according to some scientific thing, and it doesnt upset my body like mixing the veggies with peaches would.

But... I have been told that grasses can go either way, mix with veg or with fruit. I did my smoothie mostly water and chard with one orange and I don't eat bananas at all, so I skipped on those. So maybe you could try the smoothie with less fruit at first? We wouldn't want you sick for experiment's sake!

As far as "Our primary ideal food source under perfect conditions is fruit". I don't know what those conditions would be, but even when I'm eating freshly picked fruit, my body can only handle so much. I get really sick if I eat more than a couple servings a day. This is where everyBODY is different. If I don't eat greens during the day I lack energy and still feel hungry. Maybe this is because I'm still in the early stages of being raw and you've been doing it so much longer? I think it's great that ours bodies change what it wants, gives us a chance to eat something different and not get stuck to eating the same way.

BTW... Chimps have been known to, on occasion, attack other animals and eat their flesh. It's not a common thing to occur, but another argument that maybe even humans need meat, on occasion?

I've eaten cooked foods three times since being raw. A dip on accident once, no effect. Salmon with quinoa and some homemade bread, which I had order the salmon online from a place that tests for mercury and other toxins and is fresh water in alaska or something, I felt a little heavy and the next morning I had the sniffles and my tongue was slimy. But when I ate cookies. UGH... It turns my stomach thinking of it right now. It made me realize how toxic sugar really is. My stomach hurt for the rest of the day and I ended up getting a migraine. I used to get migraine all the time, literally once a week and sometimes they would last a few days. After going raw... I had one minor headache from being overheated and dehydrated. But after I eat these cookies, I get a migraine that lasted two days. So I'm convinced that sugar is way worse than a decent piece of meat.
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Confession Time?

Oh and i had wine once too. We had a guest from out of state that brought over that brought with him a bottle he got from Italy and well... we couldn't say nooo...

I had one glass and so did my husband and we felt nearly drunk. We went to bed and the room was spinning. Just to put this in perspective... 6 months before this I had a new years eve party... I drank so much I didn't remember half the night. Easy a whole bottle of vodka to myself, half a bottle of champagne and a lot of swigs of Crown Royale. I didn't get sick that night or a hangover, though I did forced myself to puke up the alcohol in the late morning because I could feel it was just sitting in my stomach. I'm for sure not proud anymore of how I could 'hold my own', which is a big deal being German and raised in England. My husband was at some point (before I came to the scene) the same way.

Now we drink one glass and we're tipsy! I can just imagine the shock on my relatives faces when I visit them in Europe of me not eating meat anymore. Let alone I don't eat breads or cooked foods. And then on top of it no alcohol!

To being the black sheep!
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something else you should SEE....there was a special on the discovery channel about pre-humans, quite interesting. i'm sure that you can find it online.

back to the jaw, the size and muscle power for us had to do with having the ability to grind the greens. all the important nutrients in greens are held within the cell walls and unless we grind them to cream, we just pass those nutrients thru our bodies without ever assimilating them. the size of our ancestors jaws did exactly this. we no longer can. tell me when you have actually sat down and chewed your food for about 200 times to make warm, gross, cream in your mouth. yuck! we just don't do it. partly laziness, partly because we can't. but the vitamix can!

you are a devil's advocate, aren't you!?!

if you or i don't really NEED anything, why wouldn't we all just be breatharians already? then we would all be the same in the end anyway, wouldn't we?

p.s. i think the twinkie eater will be the first to go.
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Hey Hippie... Don't be dissin' on my favorite past time... making warm gooey-ness in my mouth with grass and weeds can be quite satisfying not to mention spiritually enlightening
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man, what kind of weeds are you chewin' on?
just kidding!
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p.s. c'mon GB...where are you? time to chime in again!
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Basil....hooked on it

I'm hooked on basil right now. I'm Italian so I naturally love it
And...it's sooooo good for you!

My daily green smoothie this week is 1 cup of water, 2-3 medium bananas and a big handful of fresh basil leaves.

I also love parsley and mango or parsley and banana (bananas are just so easy to use, inexpensive and one of my favorite flavors).

Another quickie that I really love is spinach, apple and cinnamon. Take a handful of spinach, 2 apples (cored and chopped - I leave the skin on), 1/4 teaspoon of cinnamon, 1-2 cups of water. Blend it up and voila!
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hey kristen, haven't seen you on in awhile!
apples, huh? i had a bad experience with apples in a smoothie recently...it just turned into slop and i had to juice my smoothie to get it thinned out and drinkable.
your recipe sounds pretty, though. i'll have to have another go at it.
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Wow, I should have stayed home! So much fun reading all your postings.

How fascinating about apples! Interestingly enough the only fruit that I ever mix with my vegetables to make juice is apples and then occasionally pears. None of the tropicals or the berries. I'd love to know what kind attributes apples have that make them different.

Ok, so why aren't I a breatharian yet.... that's exactly what I want to know!!! (that's me having a fit if you couldn't figure it out) I am tired of waiting for evolution. It takes so very long.... and also... I was one of those twinky eating carnivors so long growing up that it might have done me impenatrable permament cellular neanderthalism. (say that 10 times fast).

Someone from ages ago told me to drink my food and eat my drinks. I said, I'm not a cow. I'm not designed for that. All my instincts make me eat more like my dog! Woof it down!

Do you really believe that in order to get the nutrtients out of greens they have to be total mush sloshing in our mouths for awhile before hand? Is that because of the amylase in our saliva? We make amylase other places along the way too I believe. There is definitely enzymes in those greens so that they can sit in our stomachs and break down. I have my doubts that all those greens over the years that I ate with my poor wimpy modern little jaw not good enough for much more than jabbering never did me any good. I felt them digest.

Let's get scatalogical shall we? When I first started raw when I ate so many greens my poopies did turn green. I didn't think they all got used up, but over the years the green color went away unless I supplemented big time with greens to the point of overdosing. I can eat all the chard and kale I can fit in my little bunny mouth and nothing on the other end would denote such an extravagance. I think I get those nutrients, I really really do!

Oh, yes, my vitamix is definitely better than chewing - but then - many hard core raw foodist don't believe in blending anything. That's not the way nature made it! You tend to eat too much when it's all made into a drink and yes, humans don't normally chew their drinks and therefore the drink doesn't get that lovely amalase washy washy in the mouth predigestion.

Now, when I said "designed to eat fruit" I mean our hands, our nails our teeth and our digestive tracts.... fruit is our perfect food in that sense. We do not at this point have the jaws for grinding - so.... an argument could be that we are evolutionarily (is that a word?) moving away from needing to eat greens.... since I am "the devil's advocate" I would say that if the mouth fits - wear the fruit.

Yes, if we are going to be chimps then we also do need to occasionally in angry hostility to attack other monkeys, kill them and eat them.

If I have to be almost a monkey and eat greens do I need to be eat monkeys?

Now, now, that's going too far greenbunny!!! Cut it out and play nice!

Has anyone seen Bernadette Peters sing the greens song from the musical "Into the Woods". She's a witch singing about someone stealing her greens. Oh, simply fabulous!!!!!

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Regarding "the confessions"

Wine is actually a live food. I drink wine sometimes. I only have a tiny little bit because that's all that is right and it very easy to get drunk if you aren't used to drinking anymore and even more so when your body is clean. There is a fine line between good for me and bad for me when it comes to wine.

I wanted to mention Snowbunny that most of your reaction might have been that you didn't drink organic wine. I can't drink regular wine, no