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Old 11-10-2007   #11
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That's really sad how judgmental people into a certain diet can get. We're a small enough group eating raw as it is without kicking people out!

OK, I'll make comments on anything that I am completely unqualified to give any comments on - which will be everything.

Diluted juiced raw cranberries: If you have some urinary tract problems I would give it a try when you were feeling real good and see. Cranberries aren't real high in sugar and are so bitter that I can't imagine them having the same kind of effect as regular fruit juice. Back in the day when I was fighting UT infections I drank diluted cranberry concentrate a lot and it never had a bad effect like fruit juice would but that was me and a long time ago so the only way you are going to know for sure is to experiment on yourself. If you don't have UT issues it might not be the highest priority experiment for the moment.

The low enzymes is interesting. Do you take any systemic enzyme supplementation? Do you take enzymes when you eat cooked meat? Those two things might help you.

Looks like your gut is not a happy camper.

What do you do/take to support your immune system besides all the positive thoughts?

You know, that last joke might be worth taking a bit more seriously. The best gains I made with my candida was when I did visualizations about my internal war against the yeastie beasties being won by the "good guys". I saw pac men coming and eating up those yeastie beasties (now that really does give away my age and how long ago I had that problem doesn't it?) There are lots of great videos out there that show how the immune system works - the ones for kids are some times the best. The one thing that has been definitely proven scientifically is that the immune system reacts to positive emotions, thoughts, and visualization.

Parasites are usually kept in check by the immune system. If you have lots of streptococcus etc. in your systems that is above normal that means that your immune system is certainly up against a challenge and needs support.

Here's something that I found fascinating when I learned it. During the day the body processes that are in high gear get priority over the immune systems when it comes to protein. The only time that the immune system gets first dibs on the protein is at night when the rest of the body is resting. At night the immune system is in high gear and gobbles up as much protein as it can get. Whenever I was fighting an infection, virus etc. I made sure I got protein at night even if it was sun chlorella. This really did help me at those times.

After watching all those videos on the immune system I still have one children's video that stands out in my mind over all the others and I can see it clearly in my mind's eye. It makes me happy to think about all those adorable characters running around my body fighting for me! Simple minds are easily amused I guess. There are many very high end production videos as well.

Thank you so much for writing out all those ingredients Slink! Because of the potassium Mom will not be able to take it and because of the Niacin my hubbie won't either. But it did remind me about chromium. I have to make sure that they are both still taking that because it is supposed to be a vital supplement for people with blood sugar issues. I think hubbie takes l-carnitine too. I'll have to look that one up again.

Are you familiar with the appestat? (I don't know how to spell that)It's what kicks in to tell you that you are full. I sometimes stop eating for a little bit to see if my appestat will kick in and make me feel full. If I stop eating and am still hungry it means that I really do need more. Most of the time hunger goes away after forcing myself to stop because the time given to the body allows the apestat to start performing. I've only heard of this. I should see if I can find anything about it on the internet.

Well, now that I'm done with all my completely unfounded opining I shall leave now and find some grub to not only talk about - but to eat!

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Old 11-12-2007   #12
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Muscle testing foods, parasites and question for Slink

It's great to see people talking about this. Lately, I have been doing a strict low glycemic diet and feeling a lot better. This has been challenging for me because I haven't been home and have had to find things to eat on the run. Even a tiny bit of sugar in a dressing or seasoning will cause my pancreas to hurt.

I've been muscle testing most of my foods and that has been helping a lot too. I've found that I test good for some raw meats and not for cooked. I also test good for raw eggs. So, I recently tried sushi and loved it. Unfortunately, I live over an hour from this restaurant and so it will only be a once in a while thing.

I am aware of the raw meat eaters like Aajonus Vanderplanitz (sp?). I've also been reading the book the China Study and it's really pushing me to stay away from cooked meat and dairy (which I don't eat much dairy except for cheese on occassion), but I'm finding that sometimes in order to have something low glycemic, I have to choose meat if there aren't better options.

I'd LOVE to know of some great SIMPLE green recipes. I'm not one who likes to spend time in the kitchen so simple with easy ingredients is the best for me. Also, any great low glycemic smoothies would be great too. I'm having to give up my 2 favorite smoothies because they have bananas in them.

I also recently visited with a lady who has her parasites she passed in jars. She shared with me her experience. It was a great conversation. As soon as the cleanse comes, I'm going on it. I've done numerous ones with symptom improvements but nothing that totally eliminated the issue. We'll see if I get different results this time.

Slink, did your regular doctor do the stool tests for you?

I've heard in can be hard to get accurate parasite testing. Just wondering how you went about this.
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Old 11-12-2007   #13
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hi kahoff and gb

oh gb there is just so much for us to talk about!!!!!! goodness i could go on but i am at work....chlorophyll at night sounds like an amazing remedy for me! thanks
i know my immune system has taken a beating...but my 20's were pretty fun


kahoff,
lucky for me i have friends in high places...and they are all naturopaths!! they did the tests for me it is called a CSA (stool analysis) so you sound official for your doc. if there are no naturopaths where you live. i often have a hard time getting md's to give my patients csas....they just think it is foolish....they love their colonoscopy though!!!

there are supposedly only 2 really reputable labs IN THE COUNTRY though where you can get very thorough lab readings

i will look up what i can for this and get back to you

i also need YUMMY low glycemic smoothie recipes...i bought some 100% cacao this weekend....it gets me really high but i'm not sure if it is really good for me

spirulina is great for me protein and yummy, i also splurged with coconut butter this weekend and even though it is supposed to be great for the immunity i think it is even too high in sugar for me
any thoughts??


huge PS: i was cooking some ground organic bison this weekend and started picking raw bits out of the pan...i probably ate 1-2 tablespoons worth of the raw....my first time, after breakfast i got into bed and had a pretty amazing experience of joy that i had not had in a long time, it was like my spirit re-entered my body.....it feels strange to eat it but i actually woke up craving it this morning...i've got some organinc lamb ready to go and hopefully some privacy when i get home! whoa

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Old 11-12-2007   #14
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raw liver

Hi Slink,
My husband and I ate raw liver once and it gave us a tingly high. We each thought maybe we were imagining it until we said something to each other. We just cut it in small bits and swallowed. It wasn't very palatable that way.

We are big fans of raw burger that is made with spices. In our area it is called Tiger Meat, although it's not of course. We've only had it on occassion during the holidays. I didn't experience the same high with that though. Perhaps the enzymes weren't as alive. ???

Keep me posted on any recipes.

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Old 11-13-2007   #15
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where are you kahoff??? it is so culturally taboo to even think raw meat....i like to be subversive though

i will say that the absolute healthiest i have ever seen a person was a my best friends sister when she returned from hawaii where she was living on a raw food commune where they ate raw EVERYTHING, she did meat, eggs, butter, cheese, milk etc

anyway as the day progresses i know i am having some bloating and fullness from something i indulged in this weekend.....probably the cacao???? but i guess i could be bloated from the flax crackers i ate....i am not a fan of the dehydrator

the lab i did my test through was "diagnos-techs" in takwila, wa

i think the other one is in colorado??? great something???

there is a parasite thread on the "cure-zone" website that will tell you.....what cleanse are you doing??
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I'm in Wyoming actually. We read several books on eating raw meat several years ago and have a renewed interest in it.

The cleanse was recommended to me by a lady that I just recently spoke with. She passed many different types of parasites and still has them in jars and emailed me the pictures.

Lab tests she had came back with cancer cells. After she did this cleanse her lab tests returned to normal. I haven't received it yet, so I don't have anything to report on it other than that.

If you are interested, you can send me a private message and I'll share the name. I'm not sure if we are suppose to post product info. on here. ???

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Kelly

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hi kelly,

heads up

just sent you an email, it will be from ellengeary@gmail.com
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Slink,
I would like to visit with you some more in regards to the testing you had done. I sent you an email.

Hope to visit soon! Thanks!

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Hi Slink,
My husband and I ate raw liver once and it gave us a tingly high. We each thought maybe we were imagining it until we said something to each other. We just cut it in small bits and swallowed. It wasn't very palatable that way.

We are big fans of raw burger that is made with spices. In our area it is called Tiger Meat, although it's not of course. We've only had it on