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Old 07-11-2007   #11
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a great money saving tip (and an exercise for the creative part of your brain) is to challenge yourself to go grocery shopping only when you are literally out of food. use whatever you have left to make a raw food recipe, have fun and experiment. you'll save money and probably create some yummy new recipes!

how physically active are you? i would try some yoga or just walking regularly to keep your health in check. keep going, you may just be going through a super long detox, i know i did.
if you really feel no improvement, do some research on juice fasting (or feasting) to quickly polish off the detox and gain vibrant health (although it isn't easy or very cheap)

good luck!
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Old 07-21-2007   #12
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i went to the whole foods coop yesterday and spent over $100 on 3 paper sacks of groceries. YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i did get some dishes from the deli and that adds up. i'm loving the food i bought. ;-)
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how long detox

I am eating raw and still finding lots of wonderful things to eat. I feel better inside and just "feel" it without being able to explain it but I am so tired all of the time. I sleep like a log now but sometimes I just cannot keep my eyes open. Has anyone else gone through this and if so, how long was it? Also, is there anyone out there going through menopause and how has going raw affected you.
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Old 08-02-2007   #14
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My Thoughts on the Cost of Raw

Something to look forward to...it's common for most peope in the beginning stages see this as expensive and challenging for a few reasons.

1. You're trying new recipes and have nothing on hand, so you're always buying ingredients as you stock up your pantry (you'll learn what you can make and substitute, you'll end up buying those things in bulk when they're on sale and this helps). Remember nuts and seeds and dried fruit all freeze great, so stock up when on sale and don't buy for many months at a time. Online has some great prices, hopefully offsets the shipping. For example, I get Raw agave from amazon. I buy the whole case, 12bottles I think, shipping was free and it ended up costing about $3 a bottle. I think it's Sun Organics (out of CA) they have some great prices on nuts and get cheaper as you buy a 3 or 5 pound bag. Do it! Bite the bullet now and buy the bulk. You save in the long run. Just make sure you have the freezer or shelf space for all this.

2. Don't forget the equipment cost you shell out in the beginning. It just adds up in your mind, but you likely won't buy the stuff again if you get quality equipment.

3. Then, you find the recipes you really like and you basically stick to those. Although you still try new ones, especially as the seasons change, but you probably won't make as many new and different dishes as you do in the beginning.

For most people, the transition to Raw can be challenging (cravings for cooked food, pressure from outsiders, advertising galore about the former foods you used to eat). It can feel almost as if you're depriving yourself at times or that you're on a "raw diet" as opposed to living a lifestyle. So, to compensate for the mental anguish some people lightly experience, they find themselves trying all kinds of Raw stuff, including elaborate and rich recipes (all varied of course and all needing different ingredients), super foods, books, videos, etc.
Almost as if to keep you and your mind preoccupied and these things can help, while some do it to prove something to others (for example, making things for others to try so they don't think you're insane for going Raw or so that they will support you more, maybe trying to impress them). Perfectly natural if you ask me.

4. The GOOD NEWS is that most people start out "gourmet" raw, for some of the reasons described above. It helps deal with cravings, gives you a satiating feeling after eating and helps your mind deal with the fact that you're only eating Raw food when you've eaten cooked, processed food for the past 20 or 30-something plus years (depending on how old you are). Sooooooo, here is that good news I promised: You naturally transition to a more simple diet after being Raw for a while. The timing for this is different for everyone.

Bananas are cheap and a great option. They fill you up, transport well. I have a whole table dedicated to just bananas in my house because we go through so many of them. I'll get 15 pounds at a time. Yep. Now, if I start scratching my armpits and going..."hooh-ooh-hooo" like a gorilla, then I might not eat as many

5. Remember the things you won't be buying which saves you money. Meat is expensive. Prescriptions are expensive. Processed and packaged food is expensive. Doctor and Dentisis co-pays are expensive. Being sick and staying home from work is expensive. Not having enough energy to really pay attention to your kids and be there for them 100% is expensive. Less electricity is used because you're not using your stove as much...it all adds up!

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When I started out 20 years ago the first book I read (and one of the few that I ever read on the subject actually) was Survival Into the 21st Century. Well I Made It! In it he goes into great detail on how to live on 17 cents a day and be healthier than you ever have been - mostly through sprouts. Even though it was 20 years ago, adjusted for inflation it's still pretty cheap.

Another thing they don't tell you about raw foods is that at first you eat ALOT and you are addicted to density and you are coming off of providing for your body many things that it can make for itself and that you actually only need a little of. After a while your body adjusts and you don't need so much. Your blood sugars adapt and get stabilized and the addictions reduce.

Another thing that they don't tell you is that in modern society we are spend a ridiculous amount of time thinking about, buying and preparing food. It's a national obsession. After a while eating raw food no longer is at the center of life. You start to eat to live instead living to eat. You get so involved with the other things that life has to offer that you just want to do what's easiest and quickest in order to get back to the really great stuff. You'll find a few of your favorite yummies and that will become your staples and you will eat less and less of them as your body heals and becomes able to use the food more efficiently.

At the beginning you are feeding a body that has been virtually starving. It will change.

But even if it never did change - it's still the very best investment you can make in your life. Sell your house and your car and live in a hut or tepee if you have to - but don't sell out on your body. If you have to eat just soaked sunflower seeds and bananas your still better off than going back to junky food.

Another thing they don't tell you - eating the standard SAD American diet with all the sugar, salt and chemicals ruins your taste buds and sense of smell. After a while a piece of fruit will taste a thousand times more intense and better than anything else you used to eat. Eat raw long enough and then try a taste of cooked food. Unless it is loaded with intense spices, it will taste like cardboard. At the beginning you have to go through great lengths to make things have enough taste to compete. I'm struck by how much agave is used in those pre-packaged raw food bars. They taste sickenly sweet - like candy bars - in order to compete with them. To a raw foodist too much processed sweetness tastes really bad. It's an assault on those super delicate and alive taste buds. A child that has never had sugar will spit out candy.

Give yourself time to get back your taste buds, for your blood sugars to balance, to start producing nutrients, to get better at absorbing nutrients from the food you eat and to be less interested in food for foods sake. It really is a much cheaper way to live in the long run. I am utterly amazed at how much more my husband spends on food than me and I eat all the expensive live food I want including sushi and medjool dates.

Just keep it up and it soon will get cheaper and decades from now you will counting your wealth in more than just dollars.

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I have to say, I think raw foods SAVES me money. I have always been a frugal shopper, buying lots of bulk foods. Veges are cheap when you look at how much it is per serving. I buy nuts and seeds in bulk from a buying coop in my area, so that saves me TONS. I can also get agave and a few other things like seaweed and miso. I also shop for some things at my local asian market. They have fresh herbs and fruits cheaper than the grocery store (they aren't paying for marketing) and I can get young coconuts for about a dollar. I've been buying my almond butter through the coop too, but after reading more here, even the raw stuff isn't quality. I think I might start making it myself. I've heard it's not easy, but I think I'll try it anyway.

I think everyone here makes good points. We choose the higher priced food sometimes for psychological reasons. It's a matter of deciding what things are worth it for you. But you CAN eat raw and cheap!

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