Love - Page 2 - Raw Food Chat

The Vej · 05-22-2006

I guess that would suck. But if that person really liked you and wasn't a butt hole than they should respect your decisions. I found this out in 8th grade when I was making fun of my cross-country coach for listening to 80's disco music. He turned around to look at me and said, "do you have anything important to say or are you just going to make fun of my music." I was like wow, I'm being an idiot and I walked away. He's still a cool dude but now I respect his disco music. I guess what I'm trying to say is; tell them what they are doing from your point of view and maybe they'll realize it and respect you more. Sometimes people just don't know any better because they were never exposed to it but if you show them they could be cool understanding people.

Honey · 05-23-2006

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Originally Posted by 00rawr00

i didn't used to think it was important but after watching dates eat steak in front of me, while i have an iceberg lettuce salad (which i agree, is totally lame) and they ridicule me while i am expected to respect their "superior meat-eating ways", i think that yah, it would probably facilitate the relationship a smidge if they were a vegetarian (vegan would be nice, raw would be very optimistic to hope for)

That's so awful that your dates had ridiculed you! Not very nice, I must say!

I had 2 long term relationships with non-veggies and they were so great because they respected my wishes to never keep any form of animal food-type products in our home.

But ideally, yeah... I'd love to hook up with a raw vegan one day

buttermilkfreelovecult · 06-07-2006

I could only be with a person if they could coexist with my life style. Someone who is more open to holistic medicines, and alternative means of primary and secondary education would be important if I were to have children with this person. I don't really care if they're raw or not. But being vegan or vegetarian would be helpful, as I could not and would not have edible chunks of animals flesh rotting in my refrigerator.

greenbunny · 07-29-2006

There is so very much more to a person than what they eat. I wouldn't change my husband for any other person in the world even though we our foods are drastically different. Love goes beyond such limitations. Because I love him so I make him yummy raw things to eat whenever I can and hope that any amount I can give him will help him to be healthier and be with me longer. Because he loves me he supports my choices and does his best to get me what I need to be healthy and happy. It's not as easy as eating the same, but love comes first. After 15 years he could decide to eat nothing but live insects because he thought it was best for him and I would be out digging in the yard for worms.

passionforliving · 08-08-2006

HAH!! Green Bunny, you sound like me and my husband of nearly 27 years!

greenbunny · 08-11-2006

Wow! 27 years!!! That's fabulous. How does yours usually react when you give him live foods to try? Will he ever ask for live foods?

I felt so empowered today. Instead of making "live food" sandwiches of cold smoked salmon, tomatoes and avocados on regular old bread I put it on salad greens with flax seed oil and celtic sea salt for the very picky 80 year old Mom and without oil for the hubbie. Mom is always asking for more "gravy". She actually asked for seconds and hubbie was very happy even without the bread. I often have to sort of slide in that way. Little by little. But it works. I say, "Hey I'm having such and such, want some?" If they're hungry I'm not usually turned down. Just the fact that they don't have to make somethng for themselves makes it more appealing. I won't make anything nasty. It has to be at least moving in the right direction. Use everything (even downright laziness) to advantage I say.

greenbunny

passionforliving · 08-11-2006

Yes, my husband asks for "a big salad" often. He is supportive of me.

Meals usually center on what the "baby" wants - my last one at home - 15 1/2 years old. I'll make what he wants, enough of it to feed my in-and-out tribe, and make myself something seperately. The "boys" (however many of them there are in the house at that moment, could be our 24 year old, or our 18 year old, and my husband) will grab something whenever they get home from what I make the youngest. If my husband is home at the time I am cooking, he will state how much of which he wants - usually some of mine and some of theirs.

I tried for years to "sneak stuff in" but they got so sick and tired of it, and I was worn out from the battle. It really wore on our relationships. I don't even bother any more. I'm not going to change. They know they can have anything of mine that they want, at any time. And I'll be happy to share.

It just a peaceful coexistance at this point.

By the way, I should add that I am not 100% raw, like I was for years and years. It was just TOO HARD on my family. I'm about 80%+ somedays better than others. But never below that point.

And I'm not a vegan. Or even a vegetarian. Approximately 1% of my diet is meat. Less than 5% is dairy products. Most days, an organic, free ranged egg is about as extreme as I get. But I leave the door open, for the sake of my family, just in case I have to join them for something that offers no other options.

And I do not call myself a raw foodist any longer. I am revolted by the rawer-than-thou attitude I find so prevelant in the community. I think of myself as practiciing natural hygiene. I try to stay upwards of 80% alkaline, eat a massive ton of greens, eat fruit for breakfast EVERY day without fail. And leave a little wiggle room for life to happen.

My family means more to me than a diet.

THAT'S LOVE.

greenbunny · 08-12-2006

Your attitude and life sound sane to me. I never was around a live food community to experience the ??rawer-than-thou attitude ??. I ??ve just been around a lot of individuals on my travels. Perhaps I ??ve actually been lucky? Seems silly to compete. Also seems silly to pressure oneself over food and also seems ridiculous to me to believe that food can cure all ills. Sure live foods makes logical sense and goes a long way ?? but it isn ??t everything. I think of myself and say that ??I ??m into live foods ?? which I am ?? but I ??m certainly not all live at the moment. I ??m heading that way because right now it works. I seem to be all live for moments, some longer than others and the more smug I get with myself the more my inner self seems to revolt. I ??ve been craving salmon and eating it and now I ??m going to add raw yogurt (mostly because of your wonderful website) and I also eat eggs when my body wants/needs them. So I am not a vegan either. Have been, but am more into giving my body what it asks for now. Food is supposed to support life. The old question: do you live to eat or do you eat to live? If you eat to live you do what works for the highest good of the whole of your life. It seems like that is what you have done. And I agree. My family comes before any diet. If it ??s a struggle, painful, miserable or lonely, it ??s not healthy. I ??m lucky that sneaking in is working because for me it ??s fun and they seem to enjoy it and appreciate it. If there was resentment I certainly wouldn ??t do it. Sounds like you are a thoughtful and reasonable person that has had lots of experience. It ??s good to make your acquaintance here.

greenbunny

Lapisrose · 08-12-2006

I have to say that to have your significant other on the same page is a great thing! My husband and I have both transitioned from SAD to vegetarian, BUT not at the same time. I was veg for a year before he became veg. Since he has become a vegetarian, I find him ever so much sexier

More to the point, we enjoy sharing this lifestyle together. Now I'm transitioning to Raw, and while he says he wants to, he is still VERY addicted to processed and cooked foods. This makes things difficult again, but no where NEAR as bad when he was still having me prepare meat for him.