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Old 09-23-2007   #1
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Help! What am I to do with this intensity!?

I have been noticing lately an increase in psychic energy immediately upon awakening that translates into physical energy as soon as I come fully into consciousness. When I am half asleep or in that hypnogogic state just before awaking it doesn't exist. I get freaked out in the morning about how much energy I feel running around and in my body. It's a physical sensation. Sometimes it feels almost like a humming on my skin or like I'm going to jump out of my skin. Sometimes it gets to be so much that it turns into anxiety. Last night I woke up somewhere between 3 and 4 with this feeling and it's now 1:30 p.m. and the energy is still going. Working outside in the yard for 3 to 5 hours lifting and moving and bending can help to release the energy somewhat - but it seems to be increasing on a daily basis this time. I've been at this point quite a few times before ... where the energy just gets overwhelming on all raw food. It's actually uncomfortable. Every time this has happened over the last 20 years I stopped eating raw. I tried that last night. Very plain and healthy food. All it did was make me fart like crazy and I felt completely unfed so that I had to eat another full meal of raw foods. Eating cooked food to slow this down just might not work this time since fundamentally I have made a complete and stable transition to raw food and don't even want cooked food anymore. I have found that doing gym exercises, running, weight lifting etc. has always just increased the energy. Meditating increases the energy. Yoga increases the energy. Everything that you would think would release your normal anxiety energy just increases this raw food energy. It's driving me crazy. When I used to get like this in Florida I would go outside and work in the yard and in NY I would just start jumping around, running up and down stairs and walking really really fast through the streets of NY to get to wherever I was going... but eventually I would go back to at least some cooked food. It really is uncomfortable. It's a bit like drinking too much coffee. This is the big hurdle. This is the one I never have been able to get past before. When I'm like this I talk fast and too much, I jump around and am fidgety and perhaps now I'm typing too much. I'm not outwardly like the caffeine addicts that can't stop moving their feet back in forth next you at the restaurant or kicking your chair in the movie theatre - but the energy is similar. It's not a focused, get things done kind of energy. It's a chasing your tail around in circles kind of energy. Working outside is the only things to work I think because of the groundedness of the earth energy. Exercise isn't the answer so please don't suggest that. This is beyond plain physical energy. I am at a loss as to what to do. I am tempted to get myself back on cooked food little by little, but I really don't want to. I'm not even sure how long I have been 100% raw. This time at least 6 months and before that almost all raw - who knows - maybe 95 -98% for quite awhile before that and 100% before that for probably 6 months. I don't really keep count. The point is that this only happens when I am 100% raw long enough. You might wonder why I even stay all raw as long as I do or keep returning to it. Because there is nothing in the world compared to how I feel all raw - that is until this happens. Some times the energy would kick in real fast. This time it has been slow but it's gotten real intense. It's the energy that makes me want to be all raw and the energy that stops me over and over again in the end. If I could I'd check into a meditation center or monastery and power through it, perhaps fasting to get to the next level, that might work but I just can't do that right now. I imagine that meditating to the extreme would get me through it like a healing crisis but meditating even three or four hours a day makes the energy rush almost unbearable.

Does anything like this happen to anyone else?! Once again, it's not just plain physical energy that can burned by exercise. Does anyone have any suggestions?

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my goodness!!
after you stated the things i would have recommended first wouldn't help, my mind immediately went somewhere else.

you are a person that is obviously in the higher vibrations...you have put yourself in a place of great intensity. i think you have put yourself in a great place of many awarenesses. i think you are in a place that your body, mind and spirit are all in sync and you are ready to receive some sort of enlightenment as to what your greater purpose may be.

maybe meditating (although it makes the energy heighten) would help....if you have the right things in mind to wait on an answer about. maybe put your mind in different places you've never been or thought to be in. maybe this is a turning point in message receiving for you.

how exciting!

i hope you can bare through this. as uncomfortable as it sounds, think of yourself as lucky....you have opened up to different realms lf possibilities that most of the rest of us will never get to.

good luck

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Hey, it sounds like you are on an ethereal level. PLEASE!!! Write down all that you learn, and observe! Then post them so we could all take part in solving the mysteries of life.

I would love to be in such a state of heightened energy, heightened awareness.

Good luck to you.
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Thank you so much Green Goddess and Raw Hippie! The encouragement does help.

You're absolutely right Green Goddess, it is my ethereal body that is vibrating like this and driving me crazy. To be more precise it is the etheric body which is controlled by the levels of the subconscious mind immediately below my conscious mind. It seems like my body, my unconscious and my so-called "higher" aspects are all perfectly aligned with the new energy coming in and totally calm. That's why the flood hits upon awakening. It hasn't always been that way. It seems like my physical body has really stepped up to the plate and is totally able, willing and prepared to accept the new levels of energy that are coming in. My body has no desire whatsoever for cooked food and there are no addictive cravings or even an "oh I wish I could eat that with you" feeling any more. There are no arguments anywhere - just this intense feeling on my skin, around my body and right under the surface. This rhelm doesn't have much that's new to say to me. She's just trying really hard to adapt and having a tough time. That sphere is just overwhelmed. I am consciously aware of and acknowledge the new kind of energy and have a very good understanding of precisely what it is. It's really what I have been wanting since I can remember.

Your encouragement to just stick it out is really wonderful. I ate a tiny bit of cooked food (3 olives, a little feta and the tiniest amount of dressing) on a salad today to see what would happen and I felt my physical energy drop - but it did not change that anxiety energy at all. I was just anxious AND a bit tired. There is no going back. No one in here inside me wants to. I think that I have no choice but to stick it out because I have no desire to be anxious AND tired AND feel awful about giving in and not stepping up to bat.

As soon as I got home I piled on the raw food and all the physical energy came back.

I went with my hubbie to The Lady Bird Johnson Wildflower Center that is nearby here (native plants, beautiful grounds, lots of fabulous Texan earth energy) and walked for hours connecting with the plants. That seemed to help a little. I am going to go outside now before it gets dark and lift pavers and dig in the dirt and get even more earth energy around my body to see what happens.

The one good thing about this is that I could get a whole lot of work done outside!

Your advice RawHippie is most excellent. I am going to have to meditate on ways to handle this - how to get through it. I might just have to work outside day in and out until my energy bodies adapt. I'm going to put this in the back of my brain and wait until some options appear. The problem is also that the energy sometimes kicks up in the middle of the night and wakes me up and that's it - I'm up for the day. Normally that would be great because it's just more time to do the things I want and love to do, but with this antsy energy I can't sit and read or meditate or do yoga or any of the things I would love to do at 4 am. I can't very well go hiking by myself, throw boulders around or make a racket around the house at that hour.

I guess RawHippie is right and I should spend the time meditating no matter how intense it makes the heebie jeebies. It's probably that much less time I will have to spend long term in this condition.

Please keep on encouraging me!!!!! I need it. I've come here so many times and I don't want to go back. I want to see what is on the other side of this.

Thanks again,
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I've had this happen in the past, although not connected with raw, the better I eat and take care of myself overall, the higher the chances of something moving my inner spirit. Usually, it's a sign of an inner struggle. As we cleanse or bodies and minds, it makes room for new things. Sometimes my being isn't quite prepared for the changes, and so I struggle, sometimes without knowing about what. It usually takes some time and for me, self-hypnosis rather than meditation. Not that I don't meditate, but when I am in that zone of whatever it is..... self-hypnosis is a really valuable tool for me. I usually come out on the other side with a different perspective on something... a true change in my thinking. Without changing how I think, I can't change my behavior or actions.

Please keep us informed!

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Thank you very much for our thoughts Melissa. It's clear tome that this isn't a behavior - it's a sensation - but I can understand the idea of self - hyposis as a valuable tool. Perhaps I should call much of what I do as "inner work" rather than meditation - it's just that most people wouldn't understand what that means. I will let the idea of self-hypnosis sink in regarding this issue and see if something comes of it that is useful to change my inner conversation with myself regarding the sensations that I am having.

I actually found it extremely helpful the thoughts of the other two posts in response to my plea. They helped me to reframe my sensations as negative into more of a passage. I understand the principles of self-hypnosis and hypnosis in general, but have practiced more self-communication and negotiation than hypnosis in the past. I have used hypnosis techniques for some things and will ruminate as to whether that would be amenable to my inner self. That is a very good thought to take to bed with me tonight. I really appreciate the idea. I am thankful to have a place where people will throw out ideas for me. When stuck in an old pattern it's so good to get fresh insights and impressions.

Thanks again,
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Maybe better to pray than meditate. Maybe God your better friend than the other power.
Have you ever tried it?
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Hi Greenbunny,

Even in your post, you sound more centered than you did originally, that's a good thing!

I think sometimes the terms we use in our own heads or with people that know us well and "get" us are different from what gets translated through these posts. Inner work makes sense to me! I think the self-hypnosis works well for me on that level. Probably because I started with it when I first learned to do any work on myself to start with.

On a related note, do any of you write your own scripts?

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Thank you William for your thoughts. I have my own very strong spiritual beliefs and experiences and my own ter